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	<title>Comments on: To pay dues, or not to pay dues, that is the question.</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Murff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Murff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly agree with elements of several of the comments above, particulary Tim Clark&#039;s comment.  
Specifically I think that all fees should be event based.  As far as measuring &quot;active&quot; members I think event attendance is the proper measure rather that payment of dues.  I agree that one event per year should be what classifies an active member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree with elements of several of the comments above, particulary Tim Clark&#8217;s comment.<br />
Specifically I think that all fees should be event based.  As far as measuring &#8220;active&#8221; members I think event attendance is the proper measure rather that payment of dues.  I agree that one event per year should be what classifies an active member.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Lindquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lindquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me answer the question with a question:

Are we going for quality members or quantity of members?

If quality, then I would think dues would be required if not made higher.  I see many professional associations with dues in the $200-400/year range.

If quantity, then removing dues would certainly allow people to decide on an event by event basis on when to particpate with the chapter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me answer the question with a question:</p>
<p>Are we going for quality members or quantity of members?</p>
<p>If quality, then I would think dues would be required if not made higher.  I see many professional associations with dues in the $200-400/year range.</p>
<p>If quantity, then removing dues would certainly allow people to decide on an event by event basis on when to particpate with the chapter.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Ligget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Ligget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard of an association not charging dues, so I find the premise interesting. I believe that without a financial stake, as in dues, there tends to be less interest and a perception that it&#039;s not as professional an organization. Still, if we&#039;re talking about the international community, perhaps there are areas in developing regions where even minimal dues become a barrier. But are they prohibitive at a truly minimal level? I find that hard to imagine. Here in the US the dues are so low it made me wonder at first, but the quality has been first-rate. With all the associations I could join and a certain amount of money set aside for those that would bring the best ROI, BYUMS was an easy decision. But I&#039;m glad I&#039;m paying something. I don&#039;t agree it&#039;s an out-dated model, but it can be modified locally to accommodate local conditions and still achieve the Society goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of an association not charging dues, so I find the premise interesting. I believe that without a financial stake, as in dues, there tends to be less interest and a perception that it&#8217;s not as professional an organization. Still, if we&#8217;re talking about the international community, perhaps there are areas in developing regions where even minimal dues become a barrier. But are they prohibitive at a truly minimal level? I find that hard to imagine. Here in the US the dues are so low it made me wonder at first, but the quality has been first-rate. With all the associations I could join and a certain amount of money set aside for those that would bring the best ROI, BYUMS was an easy decision. But I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m paying something. I don&#8217;t agree it&#8217;s an out-dated model, but it can be modified locally to accommodate local conditions and still achieve the Society goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Thad Balkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thad Balkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think chapters should charge dues.  I belong to several professional organizations and my membership in BYUMS is by far the least inexpensive ($25/year).  I find that if I do not have &quot;skin in the game&quot; then I don&#039;t value it as much.  

If some are concerned about dues being a barrier to some, then allow all college and grad students to become members for free (that&#039;s our policy in OKC).  Another idea would be to offer those right out of school a discount on thier dues. 

When you factor in the networking opportunities, as well as the practical information diseminated at monthly lunch meetings,  a nominal dues amount(i.e. $25/year) seems like a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think chapters should charge dues.  I belong to several professional organizations and my membership in BYUMS is by far the least inexpensive ($25/year).  I find that if I do not have &#8220;skin in the game&#8221; then I don&#8217;t value it as much.  </p>
<p>If some are concerned about dues being a barrier to some, then allow all college and grad students to become members for free (that&#8217;s our policy in OKC).  Another idea would be to offer those right out of school a discount on thier dues. </p>
<p>When you factor in the networking opportunities, as well as the practical information diseminated at monthly lunch meetings,  a nominal dues amount(i.e. $25/year) seems like a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On one hand, I understand the benefit of having a pool of funds. But on the other hand I agree with those who say that dues will be a barrier for some. I think not having fees, or finding ways to collect them by activity rather than just for general membership, could be a way to open the MS up for more people. 

The fees were a deterrent for me. I graduated with an MBA from BYU in 1995. I have been actively involved in volunteering at the Marriott School on an advisory board for years. But paying dues didn&#039;t make sense to me because I knew I wasn&#039;t in the stage of life to be attending monthly meetings. (My volunteer work is mostly done from home.)

BUT -- and this is a big but -- I probably would have benefited by being a part of the Management Society before now; during all of these years as a stay-at-home mom, I have kept an active network, tried to help people find jobs, mentored students, and, as I said, helped in various ways in the Marriott School (including with internships).

On an indirectly related note, the Marriott School is very interested in recruiting more women to enter its programs. I think little things like removing potential &quot;barriers to entry&quot; for women in the MS could possibly help the school toward this end. 

As such, on another side note, I would love to see the MS develop more support structures and functionality that can help those women who have left the full-time workforce for a time to raise their children. The MS is a perfect vehicle to help women keep a current network and even possibly help them continue building their résumés in creative ways along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand, I understand the benefit of having a pool of funds. But on the other hand I agree with those who say that dues will be a barrier for some. I think not having fees, or finding ways to collect them by activity rather than just for general membership, could be a way to open the MS up for more people. </p>
<p>The fees were a deterrent for me. I graduated with an MBA from BYU in 1995. I have been actively involved in volunteering at the Marriott School on an advisory board for years. But paying dues didn&#8217;t make sense to me because I knew I wasn&#8217;t in the stage of life to be attending monthly meetings. (My volunteer work is mostly done from home.)</p>
<p>BUT &#8212; and this is a big but &#8212; I probably would have benefited by being a part of the Management Society before now; during all of these years as a stay-at-home mom, I have kept an active network, tried to help people find jobs, mentored students, and, as I said, helped in various ways in the Marriott School (including with internships).</p>
<p>On an indirectly related note, the Marriott School is very interested in recruiting more women to enter its programs. I think little things like removing potential &#8220;barriers to entry&#8221; for women in the MS could possibly help the school toward this end. </p>
<p>As such, on another side note, I would love to see the MS develop more support structures and functionality that can help those women who have left the full-time workforce for a time to raise their children. The MS is a perfect vehicle to help women keep a current network and even possibly help them continue building their résumés in creative ways along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlene Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlene Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think each chapter would decide if they charge dues or not, depending on their own situation, when their are starting the chapter, it is difficult to stablish hard rules, but little by little things starts going on!  

Also, I think a member who attends at least one event per year, could be considered active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think each chapter would decide if they charge dues or not, depending on their own situation, when their are starting the chapter, it is difficult to stablish hard rules, but little by little things starts going on!  </p>
<p>Also, I think a member who attends at least one event per year, could be considered active.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help but catch the headline on this blog. To me this issue is perhaps the single biggest issue that impedes accelerated growth. 

If you really want to scale the organization and multiply influence and impact, you have to bring the barriers to entry to the floor. Fees should be event based. Let members assess the potential value of an event and pay on that basis. Let members decide where to exchange value. Let the fundamental value proposition of the organization be available to all. 

The dues may seem small or inconsequential to some, but they are a huge deterrent for many people, particularly if you want to increase global membership. Pull them in at no charge and then demonstrate value one element at a time. 

The traditional model of dues-based-membership has outlived its usefulness. If you really want to accelerate, you need to let it go. Then you will have the opportunity to achieve the stated institutional mission of the Society as never before.

My two cents.

Tim Clark
Alpine, Utah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but catch the headline on this blog. To me this issue is perhaps the single biggest issue that impedes accelerated growth. </p>
<p>If you really want to scale the organization and multiply influence and impact, you have to bring the barriers to entry to the floor. Fees should be event based. Let members assess the potential value of an event and pay on that basis. Let members decide where to exchange value. Let the fundamental value proposition of the organization be available to all. </p>
<p>The dues may seem small or inconsequential to some, but they are a huge deterrent for many people, particularly if you want to increase global membership. Pull them in at no charge and then demonstrate value one element at a time. </p>
<p>The traditional model of dues-based-membership has outlived its usefulness. If you really want to accelerate, you need to let it go. Then you will have the opportunity to achieve the stated institutional mission of the Society as never before.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
<p>Tim Clark<br />
Alpine, Utah</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The information we measure will drive our conduct. If we measure by who pays dues, we will focus our efforts on trying to get more people to pay dues. If we measure by attendance, we will try to get more people to attend our meetings.

Because different chapters have different dues structures (amount of dues and what benefits paying dues brings), paying dues does not mean the same thing for all chapters. Also, some countries do not allow chapters to charge dues at all.

Personally, I would rather spend our energy trying to get people to meetings and hope that over time they will become more committed. But that is just my two cents worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The information we measure will drive our conduct. If we measure by who pays dues, we will focus our efforts on trying to get more people to pay dues. If we measure by attendance, we will try to get more people to attend our meetings.</p>
<p>Because different chapters have different dues structures (amount of dues and what benefits paying dues brings), paying dues does not mean the same thing for all chapters. Also, some countries do not allow chapters to charge dues at all.</p>
<p>Personally, I would rather spend our energy trying to get people to meetings and hope that over time they will become more committed. But that is just my two cents worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet Harmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chet Harmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should let each chapter decide if they charge dues or not and how they structure the amount they charge for events.  We should also give them examples from several successful chapters as to how they run their chapters as to dues, etc.

I believe an active member could be someone who attends at least one activity per year.  The chapters could be asked to report this each quarter.
We would start at the beginning of each year tracking the number of active members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should let each chapter decide if they charge dues or not and how they structure the amount they charge for events.  We should also give them examples from several successful chapters as to how they run their chapters as to dues, etc.</p>
<p>I believe an active member could be someone who attends at least one activity per year.  The chapters could be asked to report this each quarter.<br />
We would start at the beginning of each year tracking the number of active members.</p>
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